Saṁyutta Nikāya — Discursos Conectados — 11.5 — Victory by Good Speech

1At Sāvatthī.

2“Once upon a time, mendicants, a battle was fought between the gods and the titans.

3Then Vepacitti, lord of titans, said to Sakka, lord of gods, ‘Lord of gods, let there be victory by fine words!’

4‘Vepacitti, let there be victory by fine words!’

5Then the gods and the titans appointed a panel of judges, saying, ‘These will understand our good and bad statements.’

6Then Vepacitti, lord of titans, said to Sakka, lord of gods, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’

7When he said this, Sakka said to him, ‘Vepacitti, you are the elder gods here. Recite a verse.’

8So Vepacitti spoke this verse:

9‘Fools would vent even more
if there’s no one to put a stop to them.
So an intelligent person should stop
a fool with forceful punishment.’

10The titans applauded Vepacitti’s verse, while the gods kept silent.

11Then Vepacitti said to Sakka, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’ So Sakka spoke this verse:

12‘I think that this is the only way
to put a stop to a fool,
when you know that the other is upset,
be mindful and stay calm.’

13The gods applauded Sakka’s verse, while the titans kept silent.

14Then Sakka said to Vepacitti, ‘Vepacitti, recite a verse!’ So Vepacitti spoke this verse:

15‘In this mere endurance, Vāsava,
I see a flaw.
When a fool thinks,
“He endures me out of fear,”
the simpleton will go after you even harder,
like a cow chasing someone who runs away.’

16The titans applauded Vepacitti’s verse, while the gods kept silent.

17Then Vepacitti said to Sakka, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’ So Sakka spoke this verse:

18‘Let him think this if he wishes, or not—
“He endures me out of fear.”
For the highest goal, one’s own,
naught better than patience is found.

19When a strong person
endures a weakling,
they call that the ultimate patience,
for a weakling must always be patient.

20The strength of folly
is really just weakness, they say.
But no one can challenge a person
who’s strong, guarded by the teaching.

21When you get angry at an angry person
you just make things worse for yourself.
When you don’t get angry at an angry person
you win a battle hard to win.

22When you know that the other is angry,
you act for the good of both
yourself and the other
if you’re mindful and stay calm.

23People inexpert in the teaching
consider one who heals both
oneself and the other
to be a fool.’

24The gods applauded Sakka’s verses, while the titans kept silent.

25Then the panel of judges consisting of both gods and titans said this, ‘The verses spoken by Vepacitti evoke punishment and violence. That’s how you get fights, arguments, and quarrels. The verses spoken by Sakka don’t evoke punishment and violence. That’s how you stay free of fights, arguments, and quarrels.

26Sakka, lord of gods, wins victory by fine words!’

27And that’s how Sakka came to win victory by fine words.”